For me taste boils down to how comfortable someone is in their own skin, vs how much it’s obvious they clamor for external validation
Example: if something is gaudy, ostentatious, or tacky, we’d say it’s in poor taste.
A peacock suit or bright shiny gold shoes. End to end gold walls. Wearing Gucci or name brand everything in huge letters
These things scream “I need validation” and it makes us look at such a person with pity
Taste is about what and how you are presenting.
It matters less about what you wear, what art you put up in your home, and what you say.
What matters is why you are doing those things. If you are doing it to beg for attention and affirmation, it’s in poor taste, and such a person has bad taste
Good argument and I am buying it for the most part. Except for the part that someone is both insecure (i.e. needing external validation for their choices) and in good taste (i.e. no gold, no huge lettering, no nothing). What then? :)
I am for the objective argument. Actually I think that there are objective limits to what is tasteful, within which people move and judge subjectively, and rightly so. I understand that in today's anything goes, I'm OK you're OK, let's all sing kumbaya my lord together kind of world, my view is one that emits the OK boomer response, almost as a gag reflex. Well, so be it:)
btw Erifili, have I officially won that beach debate? muahahahahahahaha
For me, It isn’t purely objective or subjective. It is both somehow, not at the same time. I know it can’t be both cause they are the opposite of each other. But hear me out. I agree with you about quality, people who appreciate good quality, probably have better taste in general. That’s what I am talking about, so let’s say there are three levels of quality, poor, medium and high quality. These are objective. Within each category, whatever the person likes is subjective. Of course all the factors you mentioned affect a person’s taste. For example, If I know nothing about art, which I don’t Lol, I can’t really judge whether this is a good one or not. Another point, from my own experience, the higher the quality, the more expensive the thing is. So whatever you can afford, will determine your taste somehow. If we are talking about shopping, the less money the person have, the more limited options they have. It limits their exposure to better quality products. If the person isn’t exposed to better things, how would they know about it.
For me taste boils down to how comfortable someone is in their own skin, vs how much it’s obvious they clamor for external validation
Example: if something is gaudy, ostentatious, or tacky, we’d say it’s in poor taste.
A peacock suit or bright shiny gold shoes. End to end gold walls. Wearing Gucci or name brand everything in huge letters
These things scream “I need validation” and it makes us look at such a person with pity
Taste is about what and how you are presenting.
It matters less about what you wear, what art you put up in your home, and what you say.
What matters is why you are doing those things. If you are doing it to beg for attention and affirmation, it’s in poor taste, and such a person has bad taste
Good argument and I am buying it for the most part. Except for the part that someone is both insecure (i.e. needing external validation for their choices) and in good taste (i.e. no gold, no huge lettering, no nothing). What then? :)
I am for the objective argument. Actually I think that there are objective limits to what is tasteful, within which people move and judge subjectively, and rightly so. I understand that in today's anything goes, I'm OK you're OK, let's all sing kumbaya my lord together kind of world, my view is one that emits the OK boomer response, almost as a gag reflex. Well, so be it:)
btw Erifili, have I officially won that beach debate? muahahahahahahaha
For me, It isn’t purely objective or subjective. It is both somehow, not at the same time. I know it can’t be both cause they are the opposite of each other. But hear me out. I agree with you about quality, people who appreciate good quality, probably have better taste in general. That’s what I am talking about, so let’s say there are three levels of quality, poor, medium and high quality. These are objective. Within each category, whatever the person likes is subjective. Of course all the factors you mentioned affect a person’s taste. For example, If I know nothing about art, which I don’t Lol, I can’t really judge whether this is a good one or not. Another point, from my own experience, the higher the quality, the more expensive the thing is. So whatever you can afford, will determine your taste somehow. If we are talking about shopping, the less money the person have, the more limited options they have. It limits their exposure to better quality products. If the person isn’t exposed to better things, how would they know about it.
Agreed, that's a really good point!